There are things that I absolutely LOVE about working in comics. Really. Honestly. Despite what must seem like my perpetual bitching, there really, really are.
This is not one of them.
The problem, you see, in working at DC or Marvel or anyplace where you are, essentially, work-for-hire, is that try though you might, you have little to no creative control over how the characters you're working on 1) appear, and 2) are drawn.
The mere fact that Renee was included in Countdown annoys me, frankly, but that's nobody's fault, really. DC's character, they want to give her play, sure. What annoys me more is that nobody bothered to either talk to me about the Grand Plan for the character (and there is one) or the redesign that would naturally occur after her last appearance in 52.
For those of you who want to see what The Question looks like these days, check out The Crime Bible: The Five Books of Blood. For those of you who have little faith and want Charlie back, check it out anyway, and then either your worst fears will be confirmed, or you'll find yourself maybe being willing to let go of the past and give us a chance.
But this, man...I recognize it's a hard sell for some folks. And stuff like this - done with the best of intentions, mind - doesn't help the cause, so to speak. First appearance after the end of 52, this is what we get.
This is not one of them.
The problem, you see, in working at DC or Marvel or anyplace where you are, essentially, work-for-hire, is that try though you might, you have little to no creative control over how the characters you're working on 1) appear, and 2) are drawn.
The mere fact that Renee was included in Countdown annoys me, frankly, but that's nobody's fault, really. DC's character, they want to give her play, sure. What annoys me more is that nobody bothered to either talk to me about the Grand Plan for the character (and there is one) or the redesign that would naturally occur after her last appearance in 52.
For those of you who want to see what The Question looks like these days, check out The Crime Bible: The Five Books of Blood. For those of you who have little faith and want Charlie back, check it out anyway, and then either your worst fears will be confirmed, or you'll find yourself maybe being willing to let go of the past and give us a chance.
But this, man...I recognize it's a hard sell for some folks. And stuff like this - done with the best of intentions, mind - doesn't help the cause, so to speak. First appearance after the end of 52, this is what we get.
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Greg, please let us know of all of the Rucka-Approved appearances.
This was my favorite re-casting of a classic character ever and I was horrified to see what they did with her in countdown. :(
Looking forward to where you take Montoya, Greg.
What I'm commenting to ask about, actually (longtime reader first time responder bla bla bla met you at the paradise comicon a year ago and you were the best part of the show bla bla bla) is your comment about there being a Grand Plan and a redesign.
Did you mean that DC commissioned a grand plan and redesign for the character that they just didn't let you in on at all? Because that's borderline malicious, while simply not asking about your plans is just garden variety lazy and less dangerous.
There's no malice involved here on anyone's part, believe me. It's a big company putting out a lot of books every month, and Countdown is a monster that has to run on a schedule on top of that. The guys working on the book are killing themselves, and I know that from first-hand experience.
I do not mean to point fingers, and I tried very hard to make that clear in the post. This isn't anyone's fault. It's just a frustration on my part, and one I felt was fair to share here.
Can't wait for Crime Bible.
I'm about to dive into a reread of all the Atticus books in preparation for Patriot Acts--and Stumpdown, if my suspicion about the main character proves correct. ;) Looking forward to it!
As for Countdown, I've noticed that I can only read it in chunks. If I try on issue at a time it feels like I'm not getting enough in each one, so reading it in groups of four or more seems to help that a little. I think that might just be an issue with large plots that come in weekly segments, though - just the way information has to be parted out over the whole thing.
That said, I'm looking forward to Crime Bible. =)
Countdown is boring, so I pay no attention to it, except for a cursory leaf through various issues at my LCS, and Renee's hackneyed tough talk thus far leaves me cold.
But Crime Bible? Are you kidding? Without sounding too gushatory and unctious, YOU'RE writing it. Of course I'll try it! You're one of three writers, Mr. Rucka, that I'll purchase a title sight unseen because your name is on it. Even if ultimately I find it doesn't thrill me, the ride's always, always interesting.
I must confess that I've been all-too aware of the naysaying surrounding the Question, and the various motivations ascribed to it. I can't say that it was unexpected, nor that it wasn't understandable. Speaking as someone who loves Charlie, and who felt that DC hadn't been doing particularly well by the character, I get the frustration all the more.
I think that at least one of the things that bothers me when I hear the "Diversity! Agenda! Ah!" argument is that it's a half argument. If the reason for the story had been simply to make the Question into an out Latina, then yes, it'd be a fair cop; but that argument ignores the whole story aspect, as well as a thousand other factors that -- like most things -- readers will never know about behind the scenes.
(Though I do love the image of the weeping fans burning Zero Hour and bemoaning AA, whispering of the mysterious Editor Who Shall Not Be Named as if afraid the Elder Gods might take notice of them. That way lies madness, friends....)
Glad you'll give it a try, and my apologies for putting words (albeit through misunderstanding, rather than malice) in your mouth.
Thanks for the reply. I know it must be frustrating when you see/read fans get angry about something that isn't actually there. I've always felt that sometimes if the staff at the Big Two were a tad more forthcoming after the fact that fan resentment could be allayed, but then again, the medium of sequential literature is one where creators and decision makers expose themselves (not in a nasty way) to fans to a degree that is unthinkable in other entetainment mediums such as film, TV, etc.
So there's this cycle where fans rightfully complain sometimes that the Big Two are out of touch with aspects of fandom, particularly on issues of how women and POC are portrayed, but conversely there's such an immediacy of contact between fans, writers, and editors and then we get a little spoiled and think goddammit, they should be answering our letters five seconds after getting them, and changing that panel on page nineteen RIGHT NOW!
You know, I was talking last night to a few people and we decided that if you'd gotten to write AA, we suspect it would have been called Amazons Kick Ass Against Some Evil That 99% of Fandom Can Agree Needs Its Collective Ass Kicked, and it would have been something entirely different.
At Wizard World Philly, Jim Califiore told me that Montoya would be featured in Countdown, and I thought, "Cool!". It never ocurred to me that the team would write her into the story without consulting you first, Greg. I assumed it would be at least an informal policy to talk to the creator of a recently revamped character before including her in another book. Sad to hear that's not the case.
Anyway, maybe this will cheer you up - The Top Six Renee Montoya Sass Panels.
http://geekanerd.blogspot.com/2007/07/t
(/asshat)
Which would, I think, be cool.
You'll be seeing more sass, promise!
Yep I'm looking forward to Crime Bible. Greg, Matthew Clark mentioned to me that each issue will have a different artist. Is this because each issue will look at a different chapter of the Bible? Who besides Mandrake and Matt are on board?
BTW my username is because of you and this past weekend at the SD Con. :)
I guess to love a story something painful has to happen and the death of the only real QUESTION was the really hard part for me.
I will follow Montoya out of interest in the concept, but I dunno. I dunno. I loved Charlie.
I disagree with you strongly about including Montoya in Countdown. I think she was an awesome addition. I think she added a ton. It's great to see a Cop side character make it to the Big Show.
But killing the Question. Man.
I hope you aren't saying they are pouring salt in the wound. It's hard. It's hard.